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Než začnete vytvářet knihovnu...

Příspěvekod Vampyr » 23 zář 2014 21:29

Už pár dní se snažím vyznat v bordelu co spousta lidí nazývá elektronickou knihovnou. Na netu existuje několik knihoven obsahujících tisíce knih. Každýho kdo tohle dělal bych nakopal do .... Takže než začnete:

Anglická jména autorek se nepočešťují
Povídky házet do zvláštní složky
Necpat do toho slovenský knihy případně do zvláštní složky
Když už jsou knihy z nějaký serie tak tam dát jasný oddělovače třeba pomlčku ne to dělat stylem: název serie 1 název knihy autor
Používat Calibre a dát si tu práci a postahovat ke knihám metadata
Psát jméno autora správně
Vymazat duplicitní knihy

Pro představu stáhnul jsem knihovnu obsahující nějakých 9000 knih, zbyla jich polovina. Duplicity, špatný kódování, sprasený jména ať už knih nebo autorů, že to ani google nenašel. O kvalitě knih samotných se ani nezmiňuju, místama člověk ani nezjistí co je to vlastně za knihu. Naházet jen tak knihy do složek podle autorů umí každej, ale dát si s tím tu práci, aby to k něčemu pak vypadalo a bez problémů se to dalo hodit do Calibre už chce se tomu trošku věnovat a pokud tomu ten čas nechcete věnovat tak to ani na net nestrkejte.

Pro představu jak taky vypadají některé knihy
Tohle na začátku knihy
ABC Amber Palm Converter, http://www.processtext.com/abcpalm.html
C:\Users\Plazma\Desktop\Knhy pdf\CH\Chase James Hadley\Chase, James Hadley -

A tohle na každé stránce Page XY
ABC Amber Palm Converter, http://www.processtext.com/abcpalm.html

Nakopat...
Naposledy upravil Vampyr dne 15 říj 2014 21:17, celkově upraveno 1

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Re: Než začnete vytvářet knihovnu...

Příspěvekod Myllan » 27 zář 2014 09:47

A ten tvůj slovní výlev znamená co - reklamu na nějakou demoverzi konverzního program???
I mě se některé balíky knih nelíbí, ale opravdu není povinné je stahovat a pokud se ti to nelíbí a máš spoustu podnětných nápadů, jak by to mělo vypadat, tak se pochlap a nabídni svojí knihovnu: srovnanou, bez duplicit, se sjednocenými názvy, s doplněnými metadaty...

Vampyr píše:Pro představu jak taky vypadají některé knihy ABC Amber Palm Converter, http://www.processtext.com/abcpalm.html C:\Users\Plazma\Desktop\Knhy pdf\CH\Chase James Hadley\Chase, James Hadley -

Opravdu si myslíš, že se někdo (mimo zkušených hackerů) dostane na tvůj disk, aby se podíval na odstrašující příklad ebooku?

Přestaň se rozčilovat, zapni skener a vyrob nějaký vlastní kvalitní ebook, ať taky přispěješ něčím užitečným naší komunitě :mrgreen:

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Re: Než začnete vytvářet knihovnu...

Příspěvekod Vampyr » 27 zář 2014 09:55

ABC Amber Palm Converter, http://www.processtext.com/abcpalm.html C:\Users\Plazma\Desktop\Knhy pdf\CH\Chase James Hadley\Chase, James Hadley -

Tohle je na začátku poloviny knih, to nebylo míněno jako pozvánka pro hackery. Kupodivu jsem tady kdysi dávno svojí knihovnu i nabízel a současnou časem fláknu někam na net taky.

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Re: Než začnete vytvářet knihovnu...

Příspěvekod antal » 27 zář 2014 13:47

Existují dvě skupiny lidí, které shánějí knihy na netu. První jsou čtenáři, kteří si vybírají podle spisovatele nebo žánru a kteří vědí, co chtějí.
Druhou skupinu tvoří notoričtí stahovači, kteří nejsou spokojeni, dokud nemají plný disk. Troufám si tvrdit, že kdo si stáhne celý balík knih, tak z toho nepřečte ani jedno procento.
Cílem není stáhnout všechno, co jde stáhnout "zadax", ale najít a přečíst si ty knihy, které toho kterého čtenáře opravdu zajímají.

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Re: Než začnete vytvářet knihovnu...

Příspěvekod blackbee045 » 15 říj 2014 21:13

Opravdu si myslíš, že se někdo (mimo zkušených hackerů) dostane na tvůj disk, aby se podíval na odstrašující příklad ebooku?

Přestaň se rozčilovat, zapni skener a vyrob nějaký vlastní kvalitní ebook, ať taky přispěješ něčím užitečným naší komunitě :mrgreen:

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Re: Než začnete vytvářet knihovnu...

Příspěvekod trumpeta2 » 01 lis 2014 17:18

Já jsem sem přišel proto, že má knihovna se z původně dobře udržované sbírky časem (a nedostatkem času) proměnila v zabordelený balík s 15k+ věcma s velkou duplicitou a nesrovnalostmi, natožpak správnými metadaty. Protože jsem se poslední dobou rozhodl z tohoto vybřednout, hledám způsob, jak nejlépe docílit nějakého vyváženého stavu. Optimum spatřuji v možnosti stáhnout třeba xGB knih najednou, setřízených, otagovaných, s láskou opečovávaných. Proto bych typ lidí, kteří cílí primárně na celý balík knih apriori nenazýval nijak pejorativně, mohou být zkrátka jen ve stejné situaci jako jsem já - většinu knih mám v nejrůznějších PDF, DOC, RTF, PDB... Pro mou čtečku jsou přitom ideální formáty jako EPUB, případně holý TXT... Jasně, několik tisíc knih už jsem konvertoval, ale proč dělat práci, kterou už určitě udělal někdo přede mnou a lépe? Samozřejmě, že bych ještě mohl pohovořit o ideálu. Ten bych viděl v obří online knihovně, do které by měli přístup pro přidání pouze lidé, kteří umí nové soubory správně vytvořit a zatřídit. No a pravidelně by byla celá knihovna repackována, aby líný čtenář nebyl nucen své offline úložiště aktualizovat ručně...

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